Pusha T speaks onstage during Panel 2: "Who We Are Now" as Pharrell Williams holds forum at Norfolk State University to discuss full potential of the cities of Virginia Beach and Norfolk in his home state of Virginia at Norfolk State University on October 28, 2021 in Norfolk, Virginia. (Photo by Leigh Vogel/Getty Images for Pharrell Williams )
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Pusha T: "I'm Proving That Rap Don't Age Out"

Pusha T: "I'm Proving That Rap Don't Age Out"

Published Tue, December 20, 2022 at 8:35 AM EST

Pusha T sat down with XXL for a sprawling interview that touched on everything from the way he feels about his years-old Drake beef (he doesn't at all care any more), his relationship with Kanye West (he's no longer the president of G.O.O.D. Music and hasn't talked to him in a while—"shit is being said today that’s beyond disappointing"), and whether or not he cares if he wins a Grammy this year (he doesn't need the validation but it'd be nice).

Pusha, who released the critically-acclaimed It's Almost Dry this year, called his music "tastemaker hip-hop," and said he's proving there's no such thing as aging out of Hip-Hop if you have the skills.

"I think I’m proving it," the 45 year-old said. "But I also think I’m proving that rap don’t age out. This is just on some preserving Black music and not putting all these ceilings on Black music. I feel like when you think about people who are my age and older, those are the guys who are joysticking the culture. Those are the guys who are definitely calling the shots."

He went on to say that he hasn't aged out the genre because he's so Hip-Hop. "Because I feel like I am hip-hop to the core," he said. "Hip-hop to the core ain’t just music. Hip-hop to the core is music. It’s lingo. It’s being outside and appreciating everything that’s going on in our world of hip-hop. It’s fashion. It’s me opening up a magazine and seeing what somebody is wearing and being like, that shit is fly. Let me find that shit. That energy don’t leave me. So, it’s hard for a muthafucka to call me a dinosaur when I’m fresher [and] I know what’s coming next. When you’re actually living it, in the mix of it. I think that just comes along with the times and the social media age, too. You can’t be behind. If you want to compete. I want to compete. These are the things you have to do to compete."

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