Irv also talked about Murder Inc., the group consisting of Jay-Z, DMX and Ja Rule, and why he thinks the project never came to fruition.
"The Murder Inc. shit was something that I wanted to do because Jay, Ja and X were like my brothers," he explained. "It wasn't about money for me – it was about us gettin' in the studio and servin' 'em. X was with it and Ja was with it and I tried two times to make that album happen. It's just my opinion, but I don't think that Jay wanted to get in the room with X and Ja. He is a very smart person. He will make a record with R. Kelly, because R. Kelly worships him. Kanye West and Jay Electronica worship Jay-Z. X and Ja don't worship him. [It's like] you're my man, but when that beat comes on you're not above me gettin' at you."
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