Fat Joe, Iconic Records with Angie Martinez

Fat Joe: "At the End of the Day We Were Gonna Make Big Pun the Puerto Rican Biggie"

Fat Joe: "At the End of the Day We Were Gonna Make Big Pun the Puerto Rican Biggie"

Published Thu, June 8, 2023 at 10:00 AM EDT

On a recent episode of Iconic Records with host Angie Martinez (created by WMX, Warner Music Group's next-generation artist services, media and creative content division), Fat Joe discussed the influence of The Notorious B.I.G.

"He influenced me incredibly," the Terror Squad MC said. "There were too many sessions that I got ready for and I would listen to 30 or 40 Biggie records in a row."

Joe went on to explain how Biggie also impacted his protégé Big Pun. "He also influenced Big Pun. Big Pun was just the Latino version of Biggie," he said. "When I first discovered him thats the first thing that I thought of. Of course, Pun had his own rhyme schemes, but at the end of the day we were gonna make Big Pun the Puerto Rican Biggie. The sex symbol 'Boricua-Morena' thing all came from Biggie."

Joe also said the late Heavy D influenced Pun as well. "If we gonna give it to B.I.G. we gotta give it to Heavy D as well," he said. "Heavy D is the guy that inspired all the big boys. Every time I hear him ,it puts a smile on my face. When it's his birthday, and you're on Instagram looking for pictures, you don't really gotta search hard. He's just fresh in every picture. Heavy D was very inspirational."

In another part of the interview, Fat Joe explains how he played a role in creation of Biggie's hit with Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, "Notorious Thugs."

"Fat Joe tells some stories you don't believe but then you realize it's the f-ckin' truth because somebody would've said, 'It's a lie,'" he says. "It sounds like a fantasy. I'm sorry, but it really happened. I lived a good life. I was everywhere."

He explains how he played a major role in the Biggie and Bone's connection.

"I was signed to Relativity Records. It was me, the Beatnuts, Common, M.O.P., Chi Ali, and Bone Thugs N Harmony, and so I clicked up with Bone Thugs-N-Harmony right away. I would go to Cleveland and hang out with them, I would ride with them on their tour. These guys sold 30 million records. They were selling out stadiums. Biggie hit me up and was like, 'Yo, bro. I'm trying to get in touch with your guys, they're ignoring me.' They didn't want to do a song with Biggie. Just for Biggie to think that advanced, because New York wasn't up on Bone Thugs like that.He knew that they were gigantic and he was like, 'Yo, I need to do a song with them... I know you're the plug, you can do it.'"

He then says it almost didn't happen because they were cool with 2Pac, having . "I was like, this is B.I.G. You know what it is to do a song with B.I.G.? So I convinced them. Now every time I see that picture [of them in the studio together] I laugh, because that's how we got that."

Watch episode 6 of Iconic Records above.

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